J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser



This turned up on ebay very recently, ending on 29th June 2013. The usual story of bad photographs and even less effort put into the listing, but i thought i could just see enough of it to be fairly sure it was of the older type, pre standard motorisation. I'm quite pleased with its general condition, no serious broken castings from its past, though it has had a couple of welded repairs made to the fence, but these wont affect its operation at all. Some considerable surgery has been carried out by Whitehead who have attached a re-conditioning plate to the machine and i suspect also painted it in its current livery (It used to be black). It has been converted to ball bearings for the cutter block and I am fairly sure that this example pre dates round cutter blocks so this would almost certainly have been done at the same time. I'm sure this was considered an upgrade at the time but i wish it was still as it left the factory.

Here it is as i received it with its wooden guard still in place:
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser


Underneath that ugly guard lurks this beauty:
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

This extra piece of aluminium guarding is about to come off too:
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

I had to remove the cast iron guard to get at the aluminium piece, and you can get a good look at the end of the new bearing blocks. These have been machined on a shaper and turned to receive a ball bearing race behind that end cover. I will have to find a suitable flat belt pulley to replace this nasty Vee Belt one.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Here you can see the original carriers for the powered feed rollers, with all their correct matching pieces in place. I'm pleased to be finding some originality to it.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Here you can see the original 3 step flat belt cone pulley that drives a pinion meshing with the large gear under the cast guard. The motor conversion has been done in such a way that only one thicknesser drive speed is available.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Looking underneat the same area towards the motor, you can start to see what has been done to fit it. I think the farthest flat belt pulley is the pair to the 3 step cone, in its correct place, but it has been eavily modified, it now only has two steps, and where the largest of the 3 step pulley faces should be, there is a seperate free running pulley turned down to the same diameter as the second one next to it, to create a fast and loose belt changing drive system for the thicknesser feed. I am not sure exactly how it should be, as this shaft is all very close to the winding shaft you can see coming down for the rise and fall of the thicknesser table.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Looking at the same area from the other end, above the motor. I assume that this brass table height gauge is original, but i think it has been moved here from the other side of the machine.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

I think it used to be mounted on these holes here. There is now a belt shifter lever mounted across the machine, i'm not sure that this is original, though the handle is very similar to 2 others on the machine, but this could easily have been replicated, and it slides in 2 quite nice cast mountings.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Here you can see a mounting for a very crude cutter block guard that came with it, i'm fairly certain it didn't have one originally, it looks suspiciously like a steel fabrication and it's about to come off...
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

It was held on with metric bolts and clamped up to a plywood packer; its definitely coming off.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

Done, it will look so much better when all this electrickery stuff has been removed too. Not just yet though, i may want to drive it off 3 phase for a little while before i get my lineshaft workshop completely set up.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

The all important J. Sagar name cast in. Another one which says 'Halifax Yorks' instead of 'Halifax England'. I wonder if this is age significant? I have a number of examples of each label.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser

The Re-Conditioning plate by A. Whitehead & Co of Halifax.
J. Sagar & Co 20" Planer Thicknesser


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